LUTE OLSON'S THOUGHTS ON HIS SUCCESSOR, PASTNER/CALIPARI, AAU
TUCSON, Ariz. – I spent a few days back in my old stomping grounds in Tucson and got a chance to catch Arizona’s win against Arizona State on Saturday, meet new athletic director Greg Byrne and also grab lunch with Lute Olson.
First, here’s the link to my story on Arizona and how Sean Miller is moving the program back in the right direction, but it’s still a ways away from being what it once was in the Olson regime:
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Goodman-Arizona-Wildcats-coach-Sean-Miller-clawing-their-way-back-011511
There’s one telling quote from Olson in the story about how badly he felt that he left the program in disarray:
It looked like the old Lute Olson when he walked into his favorite Italian restaurant on Friday afternoon.
A couple of years ago, you could sense that something was wrong when talking to the Hall of Fame coach.
There were often times when he’d stumble on his words and lose his train of thought.
However, the coach who built Arizona into a national power for more than two decades was his old self and is enjoying retirement.
Olson, 76, is a consultant for the University of Arizona Cancer Center – in which he helps to raise money. His first wife, Bobbi, died of cancer.
Olson was married again this past April after an ugly second marriage that ended in the midst of his health issues.
Olson touched on a few topics during lunch:
- Olson said he couldn’t be happier with the choice of Sean Miller to follow him in Tucson. ``He’s a family man who treats kids the right way and is a terrific coach,” Olson said. ``I think with next year’s recruiting class, they have a chance to be very good and can challenge for the league title.”
- He defended his former protégé, Memphis coach Josh Pastner. ``He needs to get his type of kids, the kind of kids he wants in the program to fit his style of play and coaching,” Olson said of Pastner, who played and coached under him. ``I also thought it was unprofessional of John Calipari to take all those kids out of there to Kentucky. Very unprofessional.”
- Olson said that high school coaches need to be integrated back into the recruiting process – as was the case years ago. ``They need to let them all coach in the summer. There are some good AAU coaches, but there are also too many that don’t hold these kids accountable. I think most of the high school coaches have the kids best interests at heart and are more qualified to coach.”
- Olson said what many coaches maintain, that getting rid of the April evaluation period wasn’t the right move.
- He said he attends just about every home game, but does not go to practice. ``I never wanted to be someone who is looking over someone else’s shoulder,” Olson said.
- Olson said he wanted to coach until he was 79 or 80 – health-permitting. ``I still loved it,” Olson said. ``And I really miss the relationships with the players and working with them – even more than the games.”
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"All those players"??? Cousins and Dodson. Where did Xavier Henry end up? UK got one more than Kansas. Why doesn't Lute attack Bill Self?
Cousins and Dodson didn't want to play for Memphis. They wanted to play for Calipari. Deal with it. -
Their LOI said otherwise.
What is hilarious is Kensucky fans think all those players signed on for the Kensucky tradition. Most of those players signed on because Uncle Wes told them to stay with Cal. -
Does Lute Olson realize that Wall, Bledsoe, Orton, and Hood were never committed to Memphis? I guess not. Maybe it's a good thing he's retired. And was Cal suppose to make Cousins stay at Memphis? Clearly he committed there only to play for Cal. Henry ended up at Kansas anyway.
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Okay...(big sigh) Let me again educate those people who are not from TigerNation. This will be for the last time!
University of Memphis
March 2009
Signed commits
Darnell Dodson
Xavier Henry
Demarcus Cousins
Nolan Dennis
Will Coleman
Verbal commits
John Wall (He was coming to Memphis 1 year before UK fans even know this guy existed on planet earth.) He had been to many Tiger games and our Midnight Madness as well.
Memphis had Xavier Henry signed (who was recruited to go to UK by CAL after he decommitted from Memphis) but chose to goto Kansas like his Dad. Good move by him.
Memphis lost 2 signed recruits Dodson and Cousins to UK. Then lost a verbal commit Wall to UK as well.
Memphis lost their entire 2009 recruiting class because of CAL....Period.....end of story!!
Cal did a TON for the Memphis program...bringing it back from the success of the 70's and 80's. For that feat...I will always be grateful. I don't blame him for leaving but how he did it is another story......
Had he stayed at Memphis he would have won national championships....at UK he will NOT win any!!!
Your education is now complete...carry on. -
I will add that Calipari cleverly inserted an "out" clause in their LOI's. This practice was sufficiently underhanded that the subsequently NCAA banned it.
I do not blame the players for leaving Memphis (typically they sign for a coach and not a school), but let's not pretend that if the shoe was on the other foot that KY fans would be understanding and tolerant. -
You need to check your "education" before you try to "educate" others. Wall was NOT a verbal committ. He did not make a college choice until April or May of that year, choosing between Duke, Miami, NC State and UK after he eliminated Memphis. UK fans have and always knew who John Wall was. He made two unofficial visits to UK while Gillispie was here, before he ever went to any other campuses. He was never going to go here while Billy was here but to say UK fans didn't know who he was is just plain ignorant. Just because Wall went to your midnight madness and a couple other visits does not make him a verbal commit. Sorry. Check your facts before you want to "educate" anyone.
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Most of what you said is correct. Wall never committed to anyone, verbal or otherwise, until he sign with KY. Cal knew he might be leaving because he had the clause in the letters of each recruit that if he left they could get out of their letters. After that the NCAA stopped that clause. In Feb.'09 Tubby worked a deal with Minn to take their job and thought he had hid it from KY. KY started looking for a coach to replace him and they knew about the NCAA inquiring about Rose's SAT in Jan.'09 and it didn't involve Calapari. Also Coach Pastner was going with Cal to KY and had made phone calls to recruits telling them he was, but he was offered the Memphis job and Cal advised him to take it and he did. As for Lute Olson, he feels sorry for him self is his problem.
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"it didn't involve Calapari" LOl, hilarious.
It never involves him does it? The money that was given to Rose's brother for travel didn't involve him either did it?? The guy is slick. He gets programs in trouble, keeps himself covered and then bolts when it gets a little to hot in the kitchen. UMass, Memphis...Kentucky is next. Period. See a pattern here? Acting like the problem doesn't exist does not make it go away....sorry. -
Wall, Cousins and Dodson all followed Calipari to Kentucky. Do you think Wall went to Kentucky because it was...Kentucky? LOL He was always going to Memphis but was making sure Tyreke Evans was going pro.
Outside of those kids, the "out" that Calipari gave the other kids from their LOI "if" he left Memphis allowed Henry and Nolan Dennis to also leave.
Look at history and tell me what other situation had ALL the recruits from a class that large abandon their commitment. I don't remember that happening when Roy Williams left Kansas for UNC or when Bob Huggins left K-State for WVA. -
mmberry301,
Kentucky > Memphis
See how simple that is? Education complete. -
Memphis is 1-0 against Kensucky. I remember that beat down in 2007 Maui.
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1: calipari started to try to get out of the Memphis job the day the ncaa letter arrived. The only reason he took the UK job is because Arizona (who he'd already been talking to) didn't pull the trigger quickly enough and the raptors were a day too slow. The Missouri game was thrown. Period. With the exception of bledsoe, hood, and Orton, the other kids were recruited with Memphis' money. Every major media outlet talked about how wrong cal was for what he did. Only in Lexington do they find him blameless. At least he hasn't had envelopes of cash burst open, right, UK fans?
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Do you want to bring in Dana Kirk and what he did to put Memphis on probation
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Transitt... paranoid much? You have absolutely NO PROOF for anything you just said. Watch out! They're behind you!
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Wall was uncommited when Cal left for Lexington and Cousins was only a verbal commitment. He committed before the spring signing period, thus he could not sign a LOI. Therefore the only recruit that Cal brought with him to UK was Dodson and we would gladly give him back. You can say all you want about Memphis money recruiting these kids, but UK spent money recruiting them as well. Tiger fans are just coming to the realization that they suck without Cal and will never be anything different.
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Waiting, actually, there is plenty of evidence of all of it. The Memphis press brought much of it to light.
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UK spent money recruiting dodson and cousins?! Lolololol UK revisionist history.
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Not Dodson, but Glen Cyprien went to many of Demarcus's games. Guess you can read into it whatever you want to read. That's the great thing about being a Memphis fan. Make it up as you go and expect the world to believe you. BTW, How bout them Southern Methodist Mustangs?????
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I'm a Tiger fan and I'm over the whole UK thing lol. You got a bunch of "one and dones" from us for one year. They don't even begin to equal even a smear on the bottom of our shoes compared to our 2008 class. Your program has already almost been in trouble with the ncaa and Cal hasn't been there 2 years. Wonder where he will bolt to when that does happen? The NBA? Pitt? where next?
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Sour Grapes....Fred Smith couldn't buy Coach Cal for Memphis just like he can't buy a BCS conference for Memphis with his $25m. I'm a Memphis fan and a KY fan also and it really upset me when the NCAA SC***ED Memphis the way they did. But what really upset me was why didn't Smith fight for Memphis in court when he knew they were wronged by the NCAA. If he has $25m to get Memphis in a BCS Conf., then correct the unjust ruling they got from the NCAA and then it will be a lot easier to get in a BCS Conf. Or is Fred Smith a lot of HOT AIR ????
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I'm no expert on how the NCAA works, but it's my understanding that what the NCAA says generally goes. Our school did try to fight it...and their ruling stood (suprise, suprise). Not sure how one goes about taking the NCAA to court, if that were the case it would be done all the time...I'm no attorney though.
I enjoyed the ride we had with Cal. The bottom line is that the guy is trouble in the end. Period. History shows that. He got UMass in trouble, he got Memphis in trouble. He WILL get Kentucky in trouble.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
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educated, try listening to two hall of fame coaches in Knight and Olson. We aren't making anything up. They believe us because they saw what happened too. Hell, the NCAA changed a rule because of what Calipari did! He even tried to take our sno cone machine! (no kidding. He really did)
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Anybody that knows Kentucky basketball will tell you that Knight has always done everything in his power to ruin the Kentucky name. That goes to his Indiana days when he was fighting with us over the top spot. Hell, he ironically couldn't make the Gameday crew trip when they had it in Rupp last year, so NO Bobby Knight's word means absolutely ZERO to any UK fan. As far as Olson goes, I'm pretty sure he has a case of Teretz and a touch of Alzheimer's so I'm done with him to. A SNO CONE MACHINE????? Come on man, get real!
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Teretz???
Do you mean Tourette Syndrome?
Man, you Kentucky fans are hilarious. I agree with the person who said that you guys are laughed at across the country for how irrational you are. -
When will Kentucky fans realize that without Calipari they are about as relevant to modern college basketball as Jimmy Carter is to modern politics. Seriously EducatedMan, outside of Kentucky, Kentucky fans are ridiculed/laughed at on a daily basis because of their irrational attitudes.
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Yeah, This year UK got Terence Jones, Doron Lamb and Brandon Knight from Memphis. Next year they are getting Davis,Gilgrist, Teague and Whittier from Memphis. In 2012 they probably will get three or four more recruits from Memphis. Get used to it. Who would play for a second rate program like Memphis when they can play for Kentucky. Even Coach Cal made the logical choice. Get used to it.
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Wow, really? They grabbed all those recruits directly out of Memphis' hands? No other schools were recruiting them? That's impressive to say the least. Also, no one said Cal wasn't a good recruiter...you just better be ready to pay the price when he gets caught. We'll talk again after you get a record 38 win season, final four or even a nc stripped off the ncaa book for his cheating.
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dquinn, congrats, that way at the next NBA draft, you can have the next "biggest day in UK basketball history".
UK and Calipari...you two deserve each other. The ENTIRE COUNTRY agrees with the shadiness of what Calipari did. The NCAA changed a RULE based on what Calipari did. Only UK fans could justify it.
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Yah, how well is that one working out for you?
For all the haters acting like UK is nothing without Cal... did he build 2,000 wins alone? Did he win 7 national championships? UK is elite. Now Cal is elite for making it to UK. Whoever said he would have gone to Arizona over UK... you must be nuts. UK, Kansas, North Carolina, UCLA and now Duke... those are the elite programs of all time. Period. Everyone knows it. Quit trying to convince yourself otherwise. -
You're proof of the point I was trying to make crallen. You can't talk to a Kentucky fan without them bringing up the term "elite" or constantly trying to convince themselves that they are by talking about what Kentucky did in the past. Instead of being an elite program, Kentucky fans sound more like the washed-up celebrity that went from fame and fortune to near obscurity: "But I'm FAMOUS, a CELEBRITY, don't you remember!" If people didn't constantly have to hear from you how elite you're program is, Kentucky wouldn't have nearly as many haters as it does.


